Within a week of the Private Sector
Annual Conference (CASP), the business community is not satisfied with the
course of reforms to improve the business environment. The "boss of
bosses", Rogério Manuel, said the Head of State, Philip Nyusi, should lead
the public-private dialogue so that ministries take measures to facilitate
business. More: President of CTA wants Nyusi dismiss ministers who do not meet
the business environment reform targets. For lack of seriousness. With the XIV
CASP scheduled for July 28, the President of CTA spoke of the issues that will
dominate the conference, and the current crisis will be unavoidable. The
debates will be animated by national and international speakers, but Rogério
Manuel says that overcoming the crisis is to protect the domestic producer,
mainly agricultural.
They spend 20 years of public-private
relationship between CTA and Government. Since then, what has changed in the
business environment?
The gains are notorious, looking for what
the country is. We come from a centralized economy and, when decentralization
begins, we find this platform the opportunity to lobby and advocate reforms,
economic policies, to put the private sector in space that belongs to you. From
that time to this, there was the passage of state enterprises to the private
sector and the economy accelerated. Thanks to the public-private dialogue, we
are now a desirable economy investment. At that time, it was hard to think of
investing in Mozambique, but now have many entrepreneurs to invest in various
areas. The coming of mega-projects and foreign investors to the country is
because the legislative part that encourages investment improved, the result of
discussion with the Government. Therefore, the balance of these 20 years is
positive. We are pleased, although we could have done more - there are
countries that came after Mozambique, like Rwanda, and have overtaken us in the
business environment, because we are not in rapid reforms.
We are talking about reforms in the
"Doing Business" of the World Bank? Mozambique occupies the 133rd
position in a number of countries ... 189
Of course. There was a period when the
reforms stopped. However, does not mean that everything is bad - there was an
opening, until it could implement some reforms.
The CASP XIV takes place at a time
when Mozambique is undergoing a deep economic crisis. What outputs see the
private sector to the situation?
Looking at the scenario where we are and
the interests of the Government and the private sector, one of the measures
would be the protection of the national producer. There is talk of a local
production strategy, but this speech is merely political - there is behind
these speeches, tangible activity related to local production. Let me
illustrate with what happens to the production of sugar: after independence,
all sugar factories (Chinavane, Mafambisse, etc ...) were standing. Countries
like Swaziland were superior and even provided to Mozambique. So we could start
again with the sugar production, there forms of protection. For the factory of
Coca-Cola worked, there was also protection policies, because everything came
from South Africa, but not now - you bring Coca-Cola South Africa to
Mozambique, purchasing the product here in the country. But if there had been
no such measures, this plant died because South Africa could lower prices to
dominate the Mozambican market. Hence the refreshment that comes from South
Africa or the sugar that comes from Swaziland have a very high rate to
discourage imports. What I am claiming is that there should be incentives for
the domestic producer. Here there is no protection policies for producers of
rice, tomato, potato, among others. That is why we continue to spend lots of
money to import products could grow locally.
The private sector does not invest in
agriculture because there is no protection?
If there is protection of the national
producer, entrepreneurs will have more reasons than enough to bet on
agriculture. The second aspect to get out of the crisis is that we have to promote
national production at the same time we create facilities for access to
agricultural financing. We can discuss the production of rice or another
agricultural product based on a trade finance. This is unthinkable and
untenable - it has to be a specific funding. Only a crazy entrepreneur can go
to a commercial bank for a loan of twenty-some percent interest to work in
agriculture. They convinced the politicians that should be opening at the level
of the region, for goods and people, so that all products produced or
manufactured in the region come to other countries without paying duties. They
are people or strategists countries because, for example, South Africa already
knew it was capable of producing tomatoes to feed the whole region and then
make money. But they did not open for cashews, for example, it does not produce
it. If Mozambique wants to export cashew, South Africans, knowing that produce
no gain nothing from it, what they do is to tax the product. There was a lack
of strategic thinking on the part of Mozambique to join the SADC protocol. We
opened the region and we killed all productive sectors. Now to reactivarmos, we
need to reform and go back to the past. Only politicians is that they can do
this, for they have signed the agreements and only they can renegotiate.
Funding for agriculture is a topic with a
white beard but no solution in sight. What is failing not to have created to
date, an agricultural credit?
There have been several proposals to
create cushions for the credit risk and there were donors who tried to help,
but it did not work. Because this effort is not enough, it needs more
investment in this area, although the government is part of that investment
haphazardly. For example, recently invested up millions of dollars, financed by
Brazil, the acquisition of equipment to mechanize agriculture. However, these
machines are in the hands of people who rent out to farmers for them to do
farming. For this activity, there should be a development bank, the donors do
not agree.
Are you saying that the National
Investment Bank (BNI) is not a development bank?
Yes. BNI is not to play the role of
development bank. Since its inception, it has been turned to large investments
in infrastructure and energy. This year alone has changed the strategy and
already have some funding, in partnership with a Chinese bank for the
agricultural sector and, even then, the process is not clear, is not being
published, and I believe to the press not It is aware of the interest that will
be charged on that credit to agriculture. We as CTA, we try to find out, but
had no information. These are things that are in the drawers, hidden in
people's pockets, which slow the development of this country.
And how the CASP can change this
scenario?
What we need is a specialized investment
bank in agriculture, hence, the Annual Conference of Private-CASP Sector, we
will bring the CEO of the African Development Bank, not because of the BAD, but
the experience that has the former Minister Agriculture in Nigeria. We want to
bring wisdom to help the Government and the private sector. We will bring the
former Minister of Finance of Mauritius, we know that is a country that
produces a lot of sugar, but it is evident in Tourism. It was the engine of
diversification of the Mauritius economy and bring him to learn from him. We
still have the ambassador of the European Union in China, which is an expert in
the manufacturing area. Those industries that we see in China, she was one of
desenhadoras process. It is advising four African countries, which are to excel
in industrialization. We bring it because we have everything to work in the
industrial area. If we see the coal we produce, we are exporting it raw and,
like coal, is happening with the gas.
In 2015, the government and the CTA
introduced reforms regarding the public-private dialogue, estabelendo points to
the part of the evaluation. It is working on improving the business
environment?
Not so much. Because there was an
agreement signed with the Government on the basis of what would be
public-private dialogue. If you remember, we had over a hundred items on the
table to discuss, but the government asked us to reduce and we accept, given
that it was the first year of governance. We reduced to just two points in each
pelouro CTA, totaling 22 points. But these points, agreed last year, the
Government did not exceed 12% of completion. The executive is expected to
explain what is happening - it was the war or else the economic situation that
have been prioritized at the expense of the private sector. But the mother was
not met.
How to overcome this situation, it is not
the first time that the CTA complains dies little met by the Government?
We think we should encourage the Head of
State to lead this process. We agree, in 2015, that every three months, the
ministers of economic portfolios should meet their responsibilities to assess
their performance in arrays. We also agreed that, every six months, the Prime
Minister should sit with the private sector to assess the performance of all
portfolios. By the Prime Minister the two meetings were held, but by economic
ministries, some made it and others do not. This lack of performance may be due
to the fact that there is no requirement, it emanates from a political decision
and not something regulated by law.
And how did the head of state can change
the course of what is not being met by the Government?
There are two ways to resolve these
situations. First, is the Head of State to use this public-private platform as
a thermometer to assess their Ministers - if you do not comply with the defined
matrices, then one can understand that do not serve. Thus, the President may
remove them and appoint others - this is a solution. The other way is more
complicated: we suggest that the public-private dialogue is governed by law,
but it would take longer. Therefore, the first solution would be the ideal way
- it would be as an employee that we target and say, 'You must achieve a
certain bar; if not consigas, you have letter of resignation and salts because
not funcionas'. This is the proposal that will lead to the Head of State.
The dialogue is not being taken
seriously?
Yes and no. Recently, economist Ragendra
de Sousa - who was appointed Deputy Minister of Industry and Commerce - said
that in Mozambique there is no business - just have people with cards Business
and more. This is ridiculous and I think it is this perception that some rulers
have and, with this way of seeing things on the national business, not going
anywhere. However, when this same ruler feels afflicted, especially at a time
of crisis in which we are moving, sends regular inspections not to others, but
to those entrepreneurs who only have cards in his pockets.
They took the statements of Sousa
Ragendra as a provocation?
I do not know if his head was in place
when he uttered those words. But I understand that it was something not thought
of, in the case of a person of that level ... and even liked it because, some
time later, the President appointed him as Deputy Minister of Industry and
Trade: we see his plan for have serious entrepreneurs in the country.
The motto of this CASP is "The
Challenges of Domestic Production in Economic Scenario Current". What
future reserves to Mozambique?
Looking ahead, we expect everything.
Tomorrow depends on the people who are in power or not cede to pressure from
international partners, particularly the International Monetary Fund (IMF). The
future is uncertain, we all (natural resources), but we are nothing. Now, in
this CASP, we expect the business community put their concerns to the Head of
State as the Private Sector Annual Conference is led by him. Hence it is to
hear what is the year of the balance sheet and look forward to also listen to
the Head of State about the decisions and or guidelines that will give your
Government.
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