Former Renamo ‘number two’ Raúl Domingos warns against scorning Mariano
Nhongo, leader of the party’s self-proclaimed ‘military junta’. “Guerrillas,
when motivated, are hard to fight,” he says.
One should not take an arrogant stance and despise Mariano Nhongo, the
leader of the largest opposition party’s self-proclaimed ‘military junt'”. So
says Raúl Domingos, former Mozambican National Resistance (Renamo) Number Two,
in an interview with DW Africa. Nhongo leads a group of dissident guerrillas
challenging the authority of Renamo leader Ossufo Momade and threatening to
resort to arms. Domingos warns that he is a “capable, competent, bush-savvy”
guerrilla who should not be ignored because “Guerrillas, when motivated, are
hard to fight.” Domingos further says the international community is also partly to
blame for the country not achieving effective peace, because they are
“committed to the ruling party” – the Mozambique Liberation Front (Frelimo) –
because of the country’s known gas reserves.
For Raul Domingo, the pace agreement is fictitious
Raúl Domingos (RD):
Well, first of all I wouldn’t ask the question [in terms] of defeat, since
there was fraud, and fraudulent elections do not count.
For me, the fraud starts with voter registration. The opposition made a
mistake competing in these already fraudulent elections. From the voter
registration point of view, the highpoint of fraud was Gaza. A province that
had 13 seats now has 22. Gaining nine seats means that Gaza’s electoral
population has grown. But, according to the National Statistics Institute, this
population growth corresponds to the year 2040. It is clear that, from the
first, there was a blistering [increase in] numbers to justify the result they
presented us.
DW Africa: Are the attacks in central Mozambique the result of this
scenario?
RD: Post-election conflicts have always been
the result of fraudulent elections. In 1999, Renamo had the majority in six
provinces, but by the STAE’s arithmetic, we did not win. As a solution to these
post-election conflicts, the possibility of decentralisation has been designed,
creating conditions for those who win in a province to appoint the governor.
From then on the fraud exercise was carried out with other counts, in which a
qualified majority was obtained to allow the ruling party to continue in a
loose manner. And that will mean continued political and military instability,
because there are still armed men out there. The peace spoken of is a
fictitious peace. True peace involves reconciliation and free, fair and
transparent elections.
DW Africa: Is General Nhongo a danger to the country or not?
RD: Many people, either out of ignorance or
mere contempt or arrogance, think that Nhongo is not capable of this or that.
My experience leads me to say that guerrillas, when motivated, when they have
implantation, are difficult to combat. The guerrilla has fuel to move around.
DW Africa: Do you know Mariano Nhongo well?
RD: I don’t know him. But from the information
I have, I think he was a 14 year old in 1980. By now, he must be 52 years old.
He grew up in the bush, became a commander. In the last conflict, from 2012 to
2014, he proved to be a good guerrilla. [Renamo] President Afonso Dlhakama [now
deceased] entrusted him with high positions in the military hierarchy in that
conflict. I know he is a capable, competent, knowledgeable military man, and it
is a good idea not to disregard this knowledge, and to look into and resolve
conflicting issues.
Mariano Nhongo has military capabilities, says Raúl Domingos
RD: Unfortunately, I have no contact with him
and I don’t know what his claims are. I know that when he appeared, he was
claiming some issues that had to do with the DDR [Demilitarisation,
Demobilisation and Reintegration] and the staff structure which had been
dismantled by the president-elect.
DW Africa: What can be done to stop the junta launching attacks?
RD: You need to approach them and have a
conversation with them.
DW Africa: What exactly is this conversation?
RD: Find out what their claims are, see what
can be accommodated, and come to an understanding.
DW Africa: The truth is that the country has returned to attacks. What
is the recipe for the country to have an effective peace?
RD: I call on the international community to
achieve effective peace. Because if we are aware of what happened during the
election campaign, we have seen that the international community is committed
to the ruling party and is not looking at the country’s problems. It makes no
sense that during the election campaign, the candidate of the ruling party
[Frelimo] would be treated both as a candidate and as President of the
Republic. In any part of the world, when there is an electoral campaign, the
government is a caretaker government.
The international community, through the gas companies, was stopping the
campaign to announce capital gains payments and other similar agreements. How
can you close an agreement with a candidate knowing that you are in an election
race?
Automatically, for the international community, the result was already
known. I think that, in these elections, we played the elections game. We went
to the elections for the Englishman to see – we went into the elections already
knowing the result. The question is rather, why did we spend so many millions
of dollars if we already knew the result?
DW Africa: How do you evaluate the peace agreements signed between the
Mozambican government and Renamo?
RD: Nothing has happened to this day. There
was that ceremony of 50 demobilised men of which only six handed over weapons.
Where are the other guns? So all this was a spectacle to go to the [election]
campaign with some news, which is the deal.
DW Africa: If you were in Renamo at this time, how would you deal with
the disarmament and integration of the guerrillas?
RD: If I were there, I would surely have all
the information that would allow me to act. But for now, we only have
assumptions. As I am not there, I cannot offer solutions. You have to be there
to know the situation and act accordingly. (DW)
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